DeepSeek-V4-Flash vs Qwen3.8 Max Preview
Wins 0 of 7 areas
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Wins 6 of 7 areas
Coding · Agents · Reasoning · Facts · Math · Following instructions
Qwen3.8 Max Preview is the stronger all-rounder.DeepSeek-V4-Flash is cheaper.
Scores updated · 39 tests both models report · How we compare
Where each one wins
Tests won in each of the seven areas where both have results. Each piece is one test, so a longer bar means more evidence; grey means the two scored within a point of each other.
- CodingWriting and fixing software15Qwen3.8 Max Preview5 of 6 tests
- AgentsCarrying out multi-step tasks on its own04Qwen3.8 Max Preview4 of 4 tests
- ReasoningHard problems that need careful thinking04Qwen3.8 Max Preview4 of 4 tests
- MathCompetition and research-level math03Qwen3.8 Max Preview3 of 3 tests
- Following instructionsDoing exactly what it is asked02Qwen3.8 Max Preview2 of 2 tests
- FactsGetting facts right instead of making them up12Qwen3.8 Max Preview2 of 3 tests
- Long documentsFinding answers in very long texts00Even0 each · 1 tie
Long documents rests on a single test.
What it costs
Prices per million tokens, roughly 750,000 words. The bars show the cost of a million tokens read plus a million written.
DeepSeek-V4-Flash costs 78% less for the same work.
The biggest differences
The tests each model wins by the widest margin, up to three each. Scores are out of 100.
Where Qwen3.8 Max Preview pulls ahead
- Avoids making up answers it doesn't knowAA-Omniscience · Non-hallucination+62.9points ahead
- Complex command-line tasks across many fieldsTerminal-Bench 4.0+26.8points ahead
- Extremely hard research-level math problemsFrontierMath Tier 4+21.9points ahead
Where DeepSeek-V4-Flash pulls ahead
- Answers hard knowledge questions correctlyAA-Omniscience · Accuracy+8.7points ahead
- Programming problems, refreshed regularlyLiveBench · Coding+2.1points ahead
Every test, side by side
All 39 tests both models report. The winning score is in its model's colour; marks a score checked independently.
CodingQwen3.8 Max Preview
- LMArena · WebDevQwen3.8 Max Preview by 241 rating points14311672+241 rating
- LiveBench · Agentic CodingQwen3.8 Max Preview by 17.946.864.7+17.9
- SWE-bench ProQwen3.8 Max Preview by 15.152.667.7+15.1
- Terminal-Bench 2.1Qwen3.8 Max Preview by 10.178.788.8+10.1
- LiveBench · CodingDeepSeek-V4-Flash by 2.17572.9+2.1
- SciCodeQwen3.8 Max Preview by 1.850.352.1+1.8
AgentsQwen3.8 Max Preview
- Terminal-Bench 4.0Qwen3.8 Max Preview by 26.812.138.9+26.8
- GDPValQwen3.8 Max Preview by 11.646.758.3+11.6
- AA IT-Bench SREQwen3.8 Max Preview by 8.831.540.3+8.8
- τ-Bench V3 · BankingQwen3.8 Max Preview by 8.439.447.8+8.4
ReasoningQwen3.8 Max Preview
- Humanity's Last ExamQwen3.8 Max Preview by 4.538.643.1+4.5
- GPQA DiamondQwen3.8 Max Preview by 290.892.8+2
- LiveBench · ReasoningQwen3.8 Max Preview by 1.686.688.2+1.6
- CritPtQwen3.8 Max Preview by 1.116.617.7+1.1
FactsQwen3.8 Max Preview
- AA-Omniscience · Non-hallucinationQwen3.8 Max Preview by 62.98.371.2+62.9
- SimpleQA VerifiedQwen3.8 Max Preview by 13.234.147.3+13.2
- AA-Omniscience · AccuracyDeepSeek-V4-Flash by 8.740.431.7+8.7
MathQwen3.8 Max Preview
- FrontierMath Tier 4Qwen3.8 Max Preview by 21.924.446.3+21.9
- FrontierMath Tiers 1-3 (v2)Qwen3.8 Max Preview by 17.257.574.7+17.2
- LiveBench · MathematicsQwen3.8 Max Preview by 4.586.891.3+4.5
Following instructionsQwen3.8 Max Preview
- LiveBench · Instruction FollowingQwen3.8 Max Preview by 8.665.574.1+8.6
- IFBenchQwen3.8 Max Preview by 3.679.282.8+3.6
Other results16 tests, not counted
Tests outside the eight areas. They are not counted above: several are summary scores built from other tests, or the same test under another name.
- GDPval-AA v2Qwen3.8 Max Preview by 550 rating points11891739+550 rating
- Agents' Last ExamQwen3.8 Max Preview by 27.225.252.4+27.2
- AA-OmniscienceQwen3.8 Max Preview by 26.3-14.312+26.3
- JobBenchQwen3.8 Max Preview by 12.141.353.4+12.1
- AA IntelligenceQwen3.8 Max Preview by 11.134.345.4+11.1
- HLE (with tools)Qwen3.8 Max Preview by 11.145.156.2+11.1
- AA Agentic IndexQwen3.8 Max Preview by 7.941.749.6+7.9
- Artificial Analysis Coding IndexQwen3.8 Max Preview by 2.769.171.8+2.7
- DeepSWEQwen3.8 Max Preview by 2.254.456.6+2.2
- DeepSWE 1.1Qwen3.8 Max Preview by 2.254.456.6+2.2
- ToolathlonQwen3.8 Max Preview by 2.270.372.5+2.2
- Toolathlon VerifiedQwen3.8 Max Preview by 2.270.372.5+2.2
- CyberGymQwen3.8 Max Preview by 1.876.778.5+1.8
- NL2RepoQwen3.8 Max Preview by 1.754.255.9+1.7
- livebench_data_analysistie79.378.4tie
- livebench_languagetie79.279.7tie
Questions people ask
Which is better, DeepSeek-V4-Flash or Qwen3.8 Max Preview?
Qwen3.8 Max Preview wins six of the seven areas where both have results: coding, agents, reasoning, facts, math and following instructions. DeepSeek-V4-Flash wins none, but costs 78% less. They are level on long documents.
Which is better for coding?
Qwen3.8 Max Preview. It wins 5 of the 6 coding tests both models report; DeepSeek-V4-Flash wins 1.
Which is cheaper?
DeepSeek-V4-Flash costs $0.44 per million input tokens and $1.32 per million output tokens; Qwen3.8 Max Preview costs $2.00 and $6.00. That makes DeepSeek-V4-Flash about 78% cheaper for the same work.
How do you compare the two?
We use the 39 benchmark tests both models have published scores on. The verdict counts the 23 tests in the eight capability areas, and a gap under one point (ten on rating-style scales) counts as a tie. The other 16 are listed but not counted, because several are summary scores or repeat a test. Each score is the one shown on the model's own page.