Llama 3 Instruct 8B vs Qwen2.5 Instruct 72B
Wins 0 of 5 areas
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Wins 4 of 5 areas
Coding · Facts · Long documents · Following instructions
Qwen2.5 Instruct 72B is the stronger all-rounder.Llama 3 Instruct 8B is cheaper.
Scores updated · 36 tests both models report · How we compare
Where each one wins
Tests won in each of the five areas where both have results. Each piece is one test, so a longer bar means more evidence; grey means the two scored within a point of each other.
- CodingWriting and fixing software02Qwen2.5 Instruct 72B2 of 2 tests
- FactsGetting facts right instead of making them up02Qwen2.5 Instruct 72B2 of 2 tests
- Long documentsFinding answers in very long texts01Qwen2.5 Instruct 72B1 of 1 test
- Following instructionsDoing exactly what it is asked01Qwen2.5 Instruct 72B1 of 1 test
- ReasoningHard problems that need careful thinking11Even1 each · 1 tie
Long documents and following instructions rest on a single test each.
What it costs
Prices per million tokens, roughly 750,000 words. The bars show the cost of a million tokens read plus a million written.
Llama 3 Instruct 8B costs 80% less for the same work.
The biggest differences
The tests each model wins by the widest margin, up to three each. Scores are out of 100.
Where Qwen2.5 Instruct 72B pulls ahead
- Graduate-level biology, physics and chemistry questionsGPQA Diamond+19.5points ahead
- Code for real scientific research problemsSciCode+14.8points ahead
- Follows unfamiliar, precisely checkable instructionsIFBench+12.3points ahead
Where Llama 3 Instruct 8B pulls ahead
- Very hard expert questions across many subjectsHumanity's Last Exam+1.5points ahead
Every test, side by side
All 36 tests both models report. The winning score is in its model's colour; marks a score checked independently.
CodingQwen2.5 Instruct 72B
- SciCodeQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 14.811.926.7+14.8
- Terminal-Bench HardQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 4.504.5+4.5
ReasoningEven
- GPQA DiamondQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 19.529.649.1+19.5
- Humanity's Last ExamLlama 3 Instruct 8B by 1.55.13.6+1.5
- CritPttie00tie
FactsQwen2.5 Instruct 72B
- AA-Omniscience · AccuracyQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 7.110.417.5+7.1
- AA-Omniscience · Non-hallucinationQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 4.310.214.5+4.3
Following instructionsQwen2.5 Instruct 72B
- IFBenchQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 12.324.636.9+12.3
Other results27 tests, not counted
Tests outside the eight areas. They are not counted above: several are summary scores built from other tests, or the same test under another name.
- MultiPL-EQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 52.522.675.1+52.5
- MATHQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 49.339.188.4+49.3
- GSM8KQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 45.949.995.8+45.9
- C-EvalQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 39.749.589.2+39.7
- CMMLUQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 38.750.889.5+38.7
- MMLU-ProQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 35.735.471.1+35.7
- τ²-Bench Telecom (AA run)Qwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 34.5034.5+34.5
- HumanEvalQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 26.260.486.6+26.2
- BBHQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 22.157.779.8+22.1
- MBPPQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 20.567.788.2+20.5
- OpenBookQAQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 19.676.696.2+19.6
- bbqQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 18.976.595.4+18.9
- WinoGrandeQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 17.36582.3+17.3
- AA-OmniscienceQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 17-70.1-53.1+17
- MMLUQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 16.860.177+16.8
- HellaSwagQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 13.771.184.8+13.7
- AIR-Bench 2024Llama 3 Instruct 8B by 11.970.959+11.9
- ARC-ChallengeQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 11.782.894.5+11.7
- Artificial Analysis Coding IndexQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 7.9411.9+7.9
- PIQAQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 6.975.782.6+6.9
- AA IntelligenceQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 2.94.87.7+2.9
- XSTestQwen2.5 Instruct 72B by 2.395.697.9+2.3
- naturalquestions_closedbookLlama 3 Instruct 8B by 1.937.835.9+1.9
- NarrativeQAtie75.474.5tie
- anthropic_red_teamtie98.899.6tie
- simple_safety_teststie99.3100tie
- HarmBenchtie72.772.8tie
Questions people ask
Which is better, Llama 3 Instruct 8B or Qwen2.5 Instruct 72B?
Qwen2.5 Instruct 72B wins four of the five areas where both have results: coding, facts, long documents and following instructions. Llama 3 Instruct 8B wins none, but costs 80% less. They are level on reasoning.
Which is better for coding?
Qwen2.5 Instruct 72B. It wins 2 of the 2 coding tests both models report; Llama 3 Instruct 8B wins none.
Which is cheaper?
Llama 3 Instruct 8B costs $0.04 per million input tokens and $0.14 per million output tokens; Qwen2.5 Instruct 72B costs $0.47 and $0.49. That makes Llama 3 Instruct 8B about 80% cheaper for the same work.
How do you compare the two?
We use the 36 benchmark tests both models have published scores on. The verdict counts the 9 tests in the eight capability areas, and a gap under one point (ten on rating-style scales) counts as a tie. The other 27 are listed but not counted, because several are summary scores or repeat a test. Each score is the one shown on the model's own page.